In the latest episode of Have You Heard, Jennifer and Jack talk to Anand Giridharadas about his best-selling new book, Winners Take All: the Elite Charade of Changing the World. The book offers a SCATHING indictment of billionaire change makers, who seek to *disrupt* public education, even as they leave the structures of inequality untouched. Says Giridharadas: *They’re not willing to have an education system that funds public schools equally and adequately because that would cost rich people a lot of money.* Complete transcript of the episode available here. And if you’re a fan of the high-quality content that Have You Heard serves up, consider becoming a Patreon supporter by clicking the link below.